| How to make a Railcar? | |
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+4Carl Hibbs philkelly GWhizz mikeyh 8 posters |
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mikeyh
Location : Dordogne France
| Subject: How to make a Railcar? Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:27 pm | |
| For some time I've wanted to have a little railcar on my railway. the problem is that they were not around in 1910! so with modellers licence we are going to have a railcar from the development era (kindly donated by Mr Benet, Demiels benefactor) I'm going to try to make a Tartary automotrice Type A like this one; Of course its got to be made from recycled materials, so i found this old container (had it for years don't know where it came from) which is the right shape for the back part of the railcar; After marking out and cutting the windows with a dremel it now looks like this; Time to do the chassis which will be a solid piece of wood with the seats etc mounted on it; We are a little farther down the line but camera batteries are flat so watch this space Mikey | |
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GWhizz
Location : Charente, France
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:13 pm | |
| Your creativity always amazes me Mike, I'd never of thought of using a plastic container that way!
Can't wait to see it develop!
I was thinking about an Autorail, but at 200 euro's plus for an unpainted resin shell from Apocopa it's out of the question! Any ideas for a basis for a De Dion ??? | |
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mikeyh
Location : Dordogne France
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:23 pm | |
| Part 2 Now the seats ( pieces of lolly stick glued onto blocks and stained) have been attached and an LGB set of wheels screwed on at the rear; the next bit will be a bit fiddley. i want to stop/start this loco so am going to have it track powered. The bonnet section will contain a geared motor and front wheels; IP engineering isolated wheels carrying electric pickups. With a bit of luck i'll do that tomorrow. Brian When i considered a bigger railcar I was going to use one of those rectangular flowerpot holders (window box type. they're just the right shape) mikey | |
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philkelly
Location : Vienne, France and Islington. London
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:12 pm | |
| Tramway Demiel gallops in to the 1920s! Mikey, that's splendid - after all, M Tatary recycled his railbuses out of used bits as well (WW1 GMC ambulances!) - very prototypical! Love to see how you get on with the gearing. Clever clogs here used a Bachmann railtruck chassis and promptly stripped a cog on a much more sophisticated piece of machinery! Phil | |
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mikeyh
Location : Dordogne France
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:53 am | |
| Some of the figures I make turn out like zombies (I'm not in clive's class!). I don't throw them away though 'cos they're ideal as passengers!. Heres the freaks in the railcar!!; more to follow Mikey | |
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Carl Hibbs Admin
Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:11 pm | |
| That's a great idea for construction Mikey.
I have an old clear-plastic Ferrero Rocher box that has a round 'roof'.
Could you send me the drawing by e mail please. I might have a bash at something similar maybe in the guise of a draisine. | |
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mikeyh
Location : Dordogne France
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:04 pm | |
| after several attempts at creating an engine cover and front end I have cheated and stuck on the cut off front end of an old model car I had!. The main problem was enabling the front wheels to swivel as i think the wheelbase would be too long for the R1's otherwise; Still a bit to do like filling in the gaps and some detailing. Not an exact scale model but loosely based on the original design! Mikey | |
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GWhizz
Location : Charente, France
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:52 pm | |
| That's coming on a treat ! Was the car a model T ? | |
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mikeyh
Location : Dordogne France
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:28 pm | |
| No it was one of those non-descript cars that leClerc sell every Christmas amongst their Chrissy decs. I've never liked it on the railway 'cos its 1/18 scale. BTW dont forget to let me know when you can visit Petit Mairat and i'll phone the geezer.
Mikey | |
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clive_t
Location : Portsmouth, England
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:47 pm | |
| Neat little railbus Mikey. Ingenious use of recycled materials, too! I'm interested to see how you're going to get the motor in there... | |
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mikeyh
Location : Dordogne France
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:48 pm | |
| ah trust you to mention that! To get the motor in there I would have had to build it open framed, but as i realised that straight away, I plan on building a trailer (with no windows) that will be powered so will push the railcar in front of it. I tried it this afternoon with a loco pushing it and it seems to work OK!
Mikey | |
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clive_t
Location : Portsmouth, England
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:56 pm | |
| Ah I get it, neat idea. I've seen locos where the tender is the drive unit, pushing the loco and pulling the train. | |
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philkelly
Location : Vienne, France and Islington. London
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:33 pm | |
| M Tartary also built four wheel passenger trailers - about the size of the railcar minus the bonnet. I've got a pic in a book at home and I'll scan it and post it when I get back to UK. Or how about a two wheel baggage trailer? Phil | |
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mikeyh
Location : Dordogne France
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:46 pm | |
| Its OK thanks Phil, i've got lots of pics of the trailers (although they only seemed to be used with the Mk 2), mostly from the MTVS series. As I want to use trackpower i'll build a 4 wheel trailer with power pickups on both axles. Fingers crossed!! Cheers
Mikey | |
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mikeyh
Location : Dordogne France
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:13 am | |
| after numbering and detailing shes ready to roll ( well once the trailer is finished!); Mikey | |
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French Chuffed
Location : Droitwich UK
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:32 am | |
| It definitely looks the part Mikey your ingenuity is always amazing | |
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GWhizz
Location : Charente, France
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:40 am | |
| Great Stuff Mikey !
As ever, a tribute to scratchbuilding on a budget! | |
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philkelly
Location : Vienne, France and Islington. London
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:58 pm | |
| As promised - for Mikey - pic and drawing of Tartary type As with trailers - taken from Le Compagnie les Tramways des Deux Sevres by Pierre Marsault. The poor quality pic shows a four wheel passenger trailer - apparently the only one built, by TDS at Parthenay, for another Tartary line, the Tramways de l'Indre. The drawing shows a two wheel trailer - originally for passenger use (!) also in the style of the type A. Hope this is useful! Phil | |
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pjti
Location : Galizano, nr Santander, Nth Spain
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:22 am | |
| Well as we are on the subject of trailers , I have found the VB141 pics , this is the trailer that went with the VT98 railbus. | |
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Carl Hibbs Admin
Location : Haute Normandie - visitors welcome
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:20 am | |
| I have this week received the latest book in the series 'Autorails de France' volume 5 from la Vie du Rail.
It's not cheap at 60€ but just as the other volumes it contains virtually all the comprehensive information concerning French railcars.
This volume covers De Dion Bouton as one of the manufacturers with a wealth of detail and priceless pictures.
There is also an invaluable section about Tartary and the earliest i/c railcars produced in France. | |
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Paulus
Location : The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: How to make a Railcar? Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:27 pm | |
| Mikey, This is a beautiful little railcar you have scratchbuild! Very inventive to use that old plastic box. I'm very curious if you ever got the trailer done and how that turned out...
Paul | |
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