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 'The Ubiquitous LGB Stainz Loco by Paul (Stainz) Holt'

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French Chuffed




Location : Droitwich UK

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Congratulations in print again Paul. (Garden Rail 182 October 2009) A nice article and a good excuse for lots of photographs of the good old Stainz, I think you should modify some of yours so that you can show the variations and modifications made over time.
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Paul Stainz Holt

Paul Stainz Holt


Location : North Wales

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Thanks Peter Embarassed

I'd forgotten about the article, I wrote it a few months back.....

I must admit, most of the modifications I have made to date have taken the form of weathering and the additon of weight so they can haul heavier trains.

The most "radical" alteration so far is to wire pairs up so that power pick up is optimum and working as a pair they can haul long trains such as this............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nERgZT72vKU
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GWhizz

GWhizz


Location : Charente, France

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paul stainz holt wrote:

The most "radical" alteration so far is to wire pairs up so that power pick up is optimum and working as a pair they can haul long trains such as this............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nERgZT72vKU

Interesting comment Paul, I thought you were running MTS, can't you just operate two or more loco's as a "consist" ???
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GWhizz wrote:
paul stainz holt wrote:

The most "radical" alteration so far is to wire pairs up so that power pick up is optimum and working as a pair they can haul long trains such as this............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nERgZT72vKU

Interesting comment Paul, I thought you were running MTS, can't you just operate two or more loco's as a "consist" ???

He wires them together to increase the number of power pick up points to stop the problem of stopping on dead bits of points etc. a problem with 4 wheeled locos sometimes.
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Paul Stainz Holt

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Location : North Wales

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Spot on Peter - twelve points of pick up instead of six Smile
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GWhizz

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Location : Charente, France

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paul stainz holt wrote:
Spot on Peter - twelve points of pick up instead of six Smile

Makes sense, but it's not a problem I've experienced (yet). But I have fitted my 4 wheel loco's with "power buffers" (capacitors) which gets them over dead spots. Do you have permanently wired combinations or are they "unpluggable" would be interesting to see how you've done it!
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GWhizz wrote:
paul stainz holt wrote:
Spot on Peter - twelve points of pick up instead of six Smile

Makes sense, but it's not a problem I've experienced (yet). But I have fitted my 4 wheel loco's with "power buffers" (capacitors) which gets them over dead spots. Do you have permanently wired combinations or are they "unpluggable" would be interesting to see how you've done it!

I do suffer from dead spots so I have ordered a power buffer to try out.
But I must admit some locos seem more prone to stopping than others, with the same number of pickups, so maybe something else is causing the problem
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Paul Stainz Holt

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Location : North Wales

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GWhizz wrote:
paul stainz holt wrote:
Spot on Peter - twelve points of pick up instead of six Smile

Makes sense, but it's not a problem I've experienced (yet). But I have fitted my 4 wheel loco's with "power buffers" (capacitors) which gets them over dead spots. Do you have permanently wired combinations or are they "unpluggable" would be interesting to see how you've done it!

They are unpluggable Brian, so the locos can work independently too.......... Smile
You can see the mini plug on this pic - they are for sale at Maplins in the UK

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Paul Stainz Holt

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Location : North Wales

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I also have three Massoth power buffers in my spares box, but I have never got round to fitting any Rolling Eyes

I have found that by removing the traction tyre from a couple of Stainz, the pick up does improve - to the level where I can run one at speed step one over a point.
To compensate for the removal of the tyre, I added more lead weight (up to 2.2 kilos).

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GWhizz

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Location : Charente, France

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Let me know how you get on guys! I had pick up problems on even a clean indoor track with two axlw loco's, so I,ve fitted my KOF, E1 and Stainz with power buffers - so far no problems even outdoors on leaves etc.

Strangely enough my newly acquired two axle tram doesn't seem to suffer even without a buffer, so perhaps it's loco specific and that has a traction tyre!
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